Comments on: WTFery in the art room. https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2010/11/04/wtfery-in-the-art-room/ Wed, 01 Dec 2010 00:24:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: pragmatist https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2010/11/04/wtfery-in-the-art-room/#comment-22860 Wed, 01 Dec 2010 00:24:03 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=647#comment-22860 It’s sick that people are told what to do in this way. Why should they tell him what order to do these things in? Fuck them.

On the other hand:

Who pays for the stuff? When somebody else pays for the stuff and the space, they have the right to tell the people who use it what to do. They should say that up front though, and not give the impression that they are giving people choices, because that is untrue.

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By: ballastexistenz https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2010/11/04/wtfery-in-the-art-room/#comment-22859 Sun, 14 Nov 2010 18:50:42 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=647#comment-22859 Well he had a sub this week, and the guy actually asked him what he wanted and stuff. And lo and behold, he quit drawing circles and started drawing other stuff and painting and sculpting and stuff. They still told him he ought to do it in a particular order, but it was respectful enough he didn’t seem to mind. I even saw him smiling and laughing for the first time in ages. It seems to be a single control-freak staff who is pulling this crap, as evidenced also by the sub being told that this staff person insists he has to do things in a particular order. But he was way way way happier this week than any other week I’ve seen him.

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By: meerkat https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2010/11/04/wtfery-in-the-art-room/#comment-22858 Sun, 14 Nov 2010 11:50:20 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=647#comment-22858 Outrageous :(

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By: ther1 https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2010/11/04/wtfery-in-the-art-room/#comment-22857 Sun, 07 Nov 2010 23:26:23 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=647#comment-22857 Maybe the staff are taking orders from the Green Nun.

In William Burroughs’ “The Wild Boys,” there was a scene with an institution where a nun made all her patients work with crayons and paint despite their adult age. They drew religious pictures for her, and if they tried to draw something on their own she would punish them by forcing them to write insulting messages about themselves on her blackboard.

This has Goodie Greeny’s mentality all over it. I’d write about Kafka, a much more inviting and coherent author, but he is overused and Burroughs did a better job of satirizing doctors. He’d been in the kind of places you were sent to. It’s not even appropriate here to say what he had happen to his nun at the end.

BTW I don’t hate Catholics, just self-righteousness.

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By: alaskahead https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2010/11/04/wtfery-in-the-art-room/#comment-22856 Sun, 07 Nov 2010 19:30:52 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=647#comment-22856 That is awful and makes my heart hurt too. I am a person with a disability, but I am sooo lucky that I hide it well (thanks to have acquired it late in life and having a very supportive husband). I work with “these” agencies and try to help them see that their job is to EMPOWER, and it is not “just a job”.

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By: mom https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2010/11/04/wtfery-in-the-art-room/#comment-22855 Sun, 07 Nov 2010 13:06:59 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=647#comment-22855 It sounds to me like the person who is with him is trying to justify their own purpose in being there. They might feel “useless” if they aren’t dictating because they don’t have a clue that this can be done another way that is actually preferable. I wonder too if anyone else is talking to this young man at all to establish him as seperate from her?

What would happen if someone introduced another concept here by going up to him first thing and saying something like “Erick. What are you choosing to do today at art?” “My name is —— and I am choosing to paint.”

It establishes him as separate from her. It recognizes his free choice and gives it merit.
It also invites him to speak. It also models free choice.

It might be enough to at least get her thinking in another direction and offers subtle support to him. It might be a first step. If it works and she is able to let go and he is able to speak up it might be something to do each time until it becomes habit for them.

I also think the idea of copying the blog or the concepts written about in the blog and giving it anonymously to the director or at least giving it to her in private would be a possibility like Robin mentioned. I would try gentle example first.

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By: j https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2010/11/04/wtfery-in-the-art-room/#comment-22854 Sun, 07 Nov 2010 07:39:53 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=647#comment-22854 That’s depressing.

Sometimes, when someone who’s blind has a very small amount of vision, they’re encouraged to do activities that help them make use of the vision they do have, and learn to maximize their ability to understand and interpret what they do see. Unfortunately, it’s very easy to picture medical professionals declaring that drawing was therapeutic, and enforcing it on that guy without looking at what they’re really doing to him. The “I know best, and you have to keep trying at what I tell you to do because eventually I will make you better!” not-listening attitude is depressingly common.

The circles do sound like a protest. I had one mandatory “Draw because it’s considered therapeutic!” assignment (involving a therapist), and I did a bunch of triangles and colored them in. Drawing generic shapes can be a good way of sending a “I’m only doing this because you’re making me” message.

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By: Littlewolf https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2010/11/04/wtfery-in-the-art-room/#comment-22853 Sat, 06 Nov 2010 19:10:51 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=647#comment-22853 This makes me sad and angry on his behalf. It’s (to me) control disguised as benevolence, as ‘we know what’s best for you’. Bleah.

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By: Julia https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2010/11/04/wtfery-in-the-art-room/#comment-22852 Sat, 06 Nov 2010 17:32:28 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=647#comment-22852 That makes no sense, and makes me angry on behalf of the guy.

WTFery, indeed.

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By: ballastexistenz https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2010/11/04/wtfery-in-the-art-room/#comment-22851 Sat, 06 Nov 2010 17:10:36 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=647#comment-22851 I don’t think it’s inappropriate for a blind person to draw at all, but I do think that given he has no preference for it in the first place, combined with staff’s emphasis on visual aspects of it that he can’t perceive, being blind makes the things they insist on seem even more pointless to him. (You’d have to be there for the back-and-forth over color, among other things.)

As for him having to really like sculpting to go there, I’m not sure whether he has any choice or whether it’s just another enforced activity for him. (My hands are too full of paint to have conversations with people while I’m there, and I’m awful at starting conversations anyway.)

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