Comments on: Distance Underthought https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2010/08/18/distance-underthought/ Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:14:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: sevisme https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2010/08/18/distance-underthought/#comment-22778 Fri, 17 Sep 2010 13:14:46 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=642#comment-22778 come back to this post every now and then, ostensibly to check for new comments, but I really think it’s just to look at the painting again. I really love it, in so many ways, especially the figures that you’ve added. It gives me such a feeling of calm and depth.

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By: rose https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2010/08/18/distance-underthought/#comment-22777 Fri, 10 Sep 2010 12:18:44 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=642#comment-22777 I think I have visited this place. There are exercises language based people can do to enter their less dominant side of the brain.

There is no time, no labels, only sensation.

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By: seks izle https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2010/08/18/distance-underthought/#comment-22776 Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:25:06 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=642#comment-22776 I come back to this post every now and then, ostensibly to check for new comments, but I really think it’s just to look at the painting again. I really love it, in so many ways, especially the figures that you’ve added. It gives me such a feeling of calm and depth.

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By: sanabituranima https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2010/08/18/distance-underthought/#comment-22775 Tue, 07 Sep 2010 01:14:34 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=642#comment-22775 Just to clarify, I absolutely do NOT think that “certain people are better off dead” views are ever excusable, justifiable, or in any way ok. But I want to know how and why people get their definitely-not-ok views.

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By: sanabituranima https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2010/08/18/distance-underthought/#comment-22774 Tue, 07 Sep 2010 01:08:53 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=642#comment-22774 “they have to step out of that place. It is grueling and rips apart what they had, giving them only the scraps rather than the full texture. It feels like exile, like death.”

I think most “normal” people assume that leaving the word-world is like exile and death. We can’t experience what you do, so we imagine emptiness in place of your fullness. We imagine you feel how we’d feel if we lost our world.

This is maybe why some people think autistic/intellectectually disabled/whatever people would be better off dead.

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By: dennis https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2010/08/18/distance-underthought/#comment-22773 Fri, 03 Sep 2010 06:27:21 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=642#comment-22773 Three on line, one being proofread, number five in process. Novels, that is. Yes, words. But, also – there are drawings, pictures, some intricate, some otherwise. Number four has thirteen hundred and more pages, many chapters, and reads like a house on fire. They all do, supposedly.
In reading your posting, I was struck by a picture, this in my mind: I could SEE the pictures, these both partial and combined, though they were different than what you painted. What I saw was an odd corkscrew-shaped cucumber of indeterminant length, covered with fractal-shaped spines of a multitude of colors, with each spine vibrating, the coiled aspect vibrating AND twisting in oscillation, and then the whole assembly vibrating like a guitar string.
It took perhaps about ninety seconds to get the whole of this picture – about as long as it takes to see how the parts of a most-intricate mechanical mechanism. Ninety seconds is a long time – I perceived the whole of an insulin pump in a third of that time, both as to the mechanical assembly and the programming aspect.

Hope this indicates that, perhaps, there are some people who are, uh, ‘bilingual’ as in they can use words passably, and process pictorial/sensorial data preferentially? Make any sense?

Dennis

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By: Rachel Cohen-Rottenberg https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2010/08/18/distance-underthought/#comment-22772 Wed, 01 Sep 2010 14:38:57 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=642#comment-22772 I come back to this post every now and then, ostensibly to check for new comments, but I really think it’s just to look at the painting again. I really love it, in so many ways, especially the figures that you’ve added. It gives me such a feeling of calm and depth.

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By: Andrea the Integral https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2010/08/18/distance-underthought/#comment-22771 Mon, 30 Aug 2010 03:48:34 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=642#comment-22771 I don’t know your policy on excplicit language in comments, but I have to say that this piece is fucking awesome.

As a member of a system who lives mostly in idea-land, at least two thirds of this is way over my head. At least the experience part of it, which I believe is at least two thirds of the post. The other third, the intellectual part (understanding what I’m reading) I have about 80-85% understanding. The one who is closest (and that’s not necessarily very close…….I’ll have to tell her to read this and respond herself) to this kind of life experience would be Athena….

she doesn’t like being out in the world because she says that people are often confusing with their many words, movements, insistence on conformity to certain mores and norms (like not stimming in public, for example)

I really enjoyed reading this but honestly it was a little bit depressing simply because I wish I could escape from idea-land and overthoughts for a while…..whenever I wanted to.

I’m curious…..do you think of word-abstractions and math-abstractions differently? Are there types of abstractions you can handle more easily? I would call the classical limit-definition of a derivative as somewhat abstract, to give an example of what I mean.

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By: ther1 https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2010/08/18/distance-underthought/#comment-22770 Sat, 28 Aug 2010 22:03:43 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=642#comment-22770 When I speak I imagine the words appearing in my head as I say them, like they’re in a page of a book. For a long time my only controlled way of communication was words and pictures-gestures, inflection and rhetoric have only recently started to make sense.

You’re right, it is difficult to imagine that painting’s world. Doesn’t mean it’s invalid but I live in a different one, which, although superficially closer to NT thinking, is still very concrete.

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By: Cereus-Sphinx https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2010/08/18/distance-underthought/#comment-22769 Sat, 28 Aug 2010 21:18:26 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=642#comment-22769 “To me the whole creative thing can feel like something intense and burning is trying to come through me, and all I can do is let it. Not in a creepy possessed sort of way. More like my entire environment is somehow coming into me and coming out as art or music (I am working on trying to become proficientcenough in just one instrument to really do it justice rather than just humming or something). ”

Wow

To me it feels like a fire somewhere inside me – the fire of the sun, almost – and the only way it can get out to light other things is through my camera, paintbrush, computer mouse, keyboard etc. And it WANTS to get out. To move.

At the same time it sometimes feels like a dance between me and the world – where the world is pulling what “she” wants out of me and pushing me and putting me in better, more graceful, positions. As much as I’m giving to her. Until the divide between us is moot.

Ok, both descriptions are missing major stuff.

The first is why Brigid is one of the only gods I have to interact with or take seriously. I can see where she comes from. So I can hardly ignore her.

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