Comments on: The Summer Thing https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2010/02/20/the-summer-thing/ Fri, 01 May 2015 05:14:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: To All The Children In Severe Pain Tonight (BADD 2015) | Ballastexistenz https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2010/02/20/the-summer-thing/#comment-28378 Fri, 01 May 2015 05:14:40 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=602#comment-28378 […] my body. It’s an instinct, all young ones must have it. But instead of feeling hands and feet, I feel a blast of burning pain, like stepping into an oven. I retreat back to the murky ocean I float in all the time. The pain is off somewhere distant, but […]

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By: Marcie https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2010/02/20/the-summer-thing/#comment-22092 Fri, 26 Feb 2010 00:02:35 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=602#comment-22092 My internal sensory awareness is generally pretty good (I think), though sometimes I don’t know I’m cold until someone ask me if I am (b/c I’m shivering). But to took me a long time it figure out that the reason button-down shirts make me nauseated is that they poke me in the chest and it hurts. Also, took a long time to figure out that other people don’t feel pain when they are tapped.

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By: ballastexistenz https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2010/02/20/the-summer-thing/#comment-22091 Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:48:15 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=602#comment-22091 Yeah I can reach the point of nausea from heat exhaustion without understanding what is causing it until someone let’s me know.

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By: Rachel Cohen-Rottenberg https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2010/02/20/the-summer-thing/#comment-22090 Thu, 25 Feb 2010 02:42:02 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=602#comment-22090 I have the same difficulties with noticing temperature. I was just visiting a friend and it took me over two hours to realize that she kept her apartment about 10 degrees warmer than I keep my house, and so I was overdressed and sweating. And it took me even longer to realize that I could shed layers in order to get cooler. And I didn’t, because I was afraid I’d be too cold, despite the fact that my friend was wearing a t-shirt.

I only learned the difference between hunger and thirst about 5 years ago, in my 40s. And the only way I know that I’m tired is that I lose my ability to think linearly–which is very confusing, because I don’t think linearly the majority of the time anyway!

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By: AnneC https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2010/02/20/the-summer-thing/#comment-22089 Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:37:55 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=602#comment-22089 Andrea S.: oh yeah, temperature is definitely another place where body-awareness weirdness can come into play. I used to get what I assumed were “panic attacks” every so often, up until my mid-20s. In which I would experience things like shortness of breath, sweating, rapid heartbeat, etc. But then one day when I was starting to experience one of these “attacks” my SO gave me a drink of water and had me remove my jacket. And everything went back to normal. It was then that I realized what I’d been attributing to “panic” was really just my getting overheated/dehydrated and not realizing it until it was really obvious.

I have not had a single one of those “attacks” since this was pointed out to me, which is great, but I have to wonder why it took 20+ years for anyone to figure out I was not just “randomly anxious about nothing” but actually too warm and not drinking enough water!

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By: Andrea S. https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2010/02/20/the-summer-thing/#comment-22088 Wed, 24 Feb 2010 01:49:21 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=602#comment-22088 The realization has recently crept up upon me that my own ability to “recognize” things like pain or other forms of physical discomfort, such as too much heat or too much cold might be slightly “off” compared to the general population. It’s not as extreme for me as it is for many of the people posting here. But I remember when I was little, I never recognized the sensation of feeling “tired.” I only started to recognize what it felt like to feel “tired” when I was in my teens or thereabouts.

One time I was in an office that was a little too cold. Except that, for days, I didn’t notice that it was too cold. I only figured it out after it dawned on me that, every time I washed my hands in the nearest bathroom, I tended to leave my hands in the running water longer than I needed to. See, this faucet was broken in a weird way that meant it kept producing warm water, never cold. And the warm water felt so good to my cold hands that I didn’t want to take them out! Then after that, I started feeling (or, more precisely, noticed or recognized my feeling) cold in my office.

My partner often keeps our bedroom warmer than I like. But it often takes me hours to notice that it has gotten too warm for my comfort.

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By: Rachel H https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2010/02/20/the-summer-thing/#comment-22087 Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:30:32 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=602#comment-22087 Thanks for writing this.

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By: ballastexistenz https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2010/02/20/the-summer-thing/#comment-22086 Tue, 23 Feb 2010 06:41:57 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=602#comment-22086 Oh geez yeah. I had a back and neck problem around the same time period in my life. And I was doing things like writhing on the floor and moaning. And I seriously thought I was just weak-willed until the problem either recurredvor got worse a couple years ago and went “holy crap, that’s PAIN.”. I think I discussed it in a rant I wrote about both traditional and alternative doctors, because the one doctor I tried to describe it to made me bend over and told me my back was way too flexible for pain. When in fact my hyperflexibility may have been one of the causes. Facepalm.

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By: AnneC https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2010/02/20/the-summer-thing/#comment-22085 Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:42:32 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=602#comment-22085 I don’t think I’ve experienced a chronic version of what you are describing here but my relationship/experience with pain in general is kind of similar. In that I have never really been able to tell that pain is pain from the immediate subjective feeling of it, unless I’ve literally seen the cause of it (like, say, getting my fingers slammed in a door). My best friend from high school still remembers when I used to go around saying that I “never got headaches”, which she and others thought was strange. Only as it turns out I DID get headaches, I just didn’t (for years) know how to recognize them.

Whenever something IN my body did something to cause pain, my “experience” of this was usually a combination of a vague “bad” feeling that I generally attributed to something else (such as “stress” or “psychological problems”), and finding myself *doing* (or not doing) things that I could not explain or understand.

The worst case of this was when I injured my back in college (by carrying a too-heavy backpack over a period of months). Initially when (what I later realized was) the pain started I thought I was just in a bad mood “for no reason”. Then when I started getting muscle spasms I attributed that to “anxiety” (but also worried that it might be a brain tumor or something really serious). When I could not even sit down at work (I had a part time internship then) I went to the health center, where I proceeded to pace in circles and hyperventilate. The nurse there told me that I was “just stressed” and wrote me a “prescription” to take more breaks. It was not until a few weeks after that that I even connected any of this to anything in my back — basically one day I got off my bike, tried to pick up my backpack, and simply physically could not do it.

That clued me in to the fact that my back felt “weak”, and then it was like HOLY CRAP OW, that is PAIN! And of course it still took me weeks after that to actually go to the doctor, by which time I could barely walk without falling down. Turned out that my back muscles were swollen up and were pressing on nerves in various places, which accounted for the spasms and weakness and pain.

Anyway, all that said the thing that really stands out to me here is that the only way I found out that the pain was happening was through external things. Like I could not experience the pain as pain until I actually saw my body doing things it didn’t normally do (like twitch uncontrollably in places) and NOT doing things (like picking up backpacks) that it could normally do. And it took a whole ton of data-gathering for me to recognize that these things were both connected and significant, and only after I had “conclusive evidence” that something was indeed wrong did the recognition of pain occur. So I guess at least now I know to watch out for that kind of thing, and I wish for the sake of people whose sensory/perceptual system works this way that there was more discussion of this sort of thing. And that there was less of a push to attribute “strange” movements or lack of ability to do things to laziness or “psychological issues” or “attitude problems”.

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By: Marcie https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2010/02/20/the-summer-thing/#comment-22084 Mon, 22 Feb 2010 00:47:51 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=602#comment-22084 What you describe sounds quite a bit like something I go through. Mine is not as disabling – I “press on” always, though I keep expecting that one day that ability will break down (it has not yet so maybe it won’t ever). But I once described the physical sensations I go through as “cool fire” on my skin. “Sandpaper” and “sunburn” are also accurate. However, compared to typical pain, the physical sensations are more ghost images.

When I get what the occupational therapist refer to as “deep pressure”, it helps a lot, especially if it’s from someone I trust. But then that tends to lead to more sexual situations, which I don’t mind except that I do tend to have the “usual orifice” problem. I keep trying to find a way to explain to guys what I experience, but it’s not possible when someone doesn’t go through it and they’re not interested in understanding anyway. I’ve been in many situations where I was told “it ok if we just cuddle” but it’s just an excuse to try to get me to have sex with the person…There is just such a *huge* difference between the way I process general pressure and point pressure. I’m a compulsive petter of pets, since they are “safe”.

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