Comments on: I am beyond outraged about this: Prednisone and autism. https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2007/05/21/i-am-beyond-outraged-about-this-prednisone-and-autism/ Fri, 16 Mar 2018 21:51:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Stella https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2007/05/21/i-am-beyond-outraged-about-this-prednisone-and-autism/#comment-33565 Fri, 16 Mar 2018 21:51:32 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=388#comment-33565 You do not know what you are talking about .

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By: Jill Harwood https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2007/05/21/i-am-beyond-outraged-about-this-prednisone-and-autism/#comment-29890 Sun, 30 Oct 2016 02:48:55 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=388#comment-29890 My 5yr old grandaughter is autistic and has been given phenylephrine cough medicine for her cough. She has acted out in school to the point where she is regularly being sent home for attaching the teacher. Could the not so innocent cough medicine be causing these rages?

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By: Jean Halverson https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2007/05/21/i-am-beyond-outraged-about-this-prednisone-and-autism/#comment-29083 Mon, 14 Mar 2016 16:05:36 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=388#comment-29083 My heart is breaking right now. I was online hoping to see if Prednisone could indeed be used to treat autism because my grandson who is autistic has just had the most wonderful week of his life because he was prescribed Prednison for for a mild case of Bells Palsy. His wonderful attention span, normal speech patterns, calm and happy mood were gifts I was hoping he could keep. He finished his doses today and now I realize that it will be like the movie, “Awakening,” and he will go back to the suffering child he has been. I would give anything if there was a study done, with doctors carefully monitoring for side effects and progress. I have heard of all of the horrible side effects of Prednisone over time and that it would be dangerous for our grandson, but to glimpse this happy carefree boy for just a week really is heartbreaking when I know tomorrow that will be over for him.

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By: erin https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2007/05/21/i-am-beyond-outraged-about-this-prednisone-and-autism/#comment-27931 Tue, 04 Nov 2014 08:51:55 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=388#comment-27931 I am joining this post very late. I am INTRIGUED that some in the medical community are considering possible uses of prednisone in treating certain aspects of autism. I found this blog because I was prescribed prednisone for a back injury.

The 2 weeks I was on it were absolutely amazing. I have severe ADD (no H). It affects every area of my life. I have a lot of talents but when you’re brain gets in the way and you can’t use them- it is very hard to be happy with what you are accomplishing in life. It absolutely cleared my mind in a way that nothing I have ever been on has.

I have been anti-depressents, mood stabilizers, stimulants, pseud-stimulants. Stimulants have helped the most but in a very choppy, up and down, way. Being on prednisone was SMOOTH. I don’t know how to explain how it cleared my brain.

Some on this post have said that there is no reason at all to think that P. would be any benefit to autism. That may be true. But there is also no reason to think it would totally clear my lifelong and severe ADD while I was on it. We don’t understand the brain. There is so much we don’t know.

I understand that P. is dangerous. It feels so unfair that I found the only thing that’s ever worked for me, by accident, and now I can’t use it. But this is just a PIECE of the big puzzle. The results of a test like that, which I guarantee will be closely monitered by drs., might hold an answer that can help millions of people. with MANY different conditions.

I am not saying it’s right or wrong- that’s for the Dr.s and the parents to study and work out and decide. I am saying that it is very good for us to be concerned about dangerous medicines. It is also good for us to acknowledge that we do not know all things. One of the ways we learn things that save people’s lives is by conducting studies.

Seems like a better idea to to a study on adults with autism if one is to be done. But maybe they had reason to think it could help the development at a crucial time.

Just wanted to be a voice of reason here to suggest that what you read about is MOST LIKELY not a group of parents and doctors who are just kicking back their feet and saying- what the heck? Sounds like an interesting study. We have no reason to believe it could help- but let’s just give it a whirl. And after that let’s try feeding them dirt for a few weeks and see how it affects their autism.

Let’s advocate for wisdom. Let’s also recognize that science holds the key to many mysteries before we react emotionally to something that we don’t understand. Like why they would hold a study like that.

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By: melissa https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2007/05/21/i-am-beyond-outraged-about-this-prednisone-and-autism/#comment-23621 Fri, 20 Apr 2012 16:03:15 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=388#comment-23621 In reply to Joeymom.

I am currently trying to do the same thing. My son has chronic croup and Autism. During this current bout of croup/prednisone, ALL of his teachers and therapists noticed a HUGE, HUGE difference in him. They wanted to know what was different. I mentioned he was on prednisone. He is completely “on”. Its just amazing to witness such a signifigant improvement. I, like you, dont believe this is the cure all, but am trying to find out why, and what else I can do, to continue making improvements with my sons focus and speech, without harming him.

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By: beveanne https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2007/05/21/i-am-beyond-outraged-about-this-prednisone-and-autism/#comment-17714 Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:06:46 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=388#comment-17714 turmeric yes predisone no no side effects on turmeric other than dont be clumsy or it will stain things.

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By: Valerie Foley https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2007/05/21/i-am-beyond-outraged-about-this-prednisone-and-autism/#comment-17713 Sun, 25 May 2008 05:21:43 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=388#comment-17713 I don’t think you need to be too worried about the widespread use of Prednisone as a ‘drug’ to ‘treat’ autism. The only place it’s happening in an organised way, is in the USA, among a very small cohort of medical professionals and families.

I am the mother of an autistic child who was prescribed prednisone for a life threatening auto-immune condition. It saved his life, and also managed to ‘unlock’ a lot of speech and language potential.

The fact that this happened SHOULD, IMO, encourage the medical profession to investigate why, and seek safer alternatives.

Autism is not something you cure. It is not a disease. It is a neurological condition, triggered and effected by a huge range of factors. It is something you live with, something you manage, just the same as any other condition that effects the way you live.

I totally agree that ad-hoc use of any drug or therapy and any time as a catch all ‘cure’ is dangerous and also probably useless.

I totally disagree that we should ignore something that has a positive effect on people’s lives, and shut down all questioning and investigation, for fear it will be misused.

Penicillin, anyone?

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By: ballastexistenz https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2007/05/21/i-am-beyond-outraged-about-this-prednisone-and-autism/#comment-17712 Sun, 30 Mar 2008 23:37:52 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=388#comment-17712 I have no problem with the appropriate use of Prednisone in anyone, child or adult, as I think I’ve mentioned. But the appropriate use of Prednisone is generally as little as possible, for as short a duration as possible, only to be used in circumstances where the risks don’t outweigh the benefits, and given that many of the risks can prove fatal, the disease it’s treating had generally better be fatal, potentially fatal, extremely likely to lead to fatal consequences indirectly, or something very close to it. And it should be used with even more care when treating children because the risks to children are bigger.

That’s the consensus among most people I know who’ve ever used Prednisone (including myself), as well as most doctors I have known who prescribe it.

There has already been at least one fatality among autistic children prescribed Prednisone “for autism”. And I have never bought “better dead than autistic so it’s worth the risk” sort of rhetoric, although I know it’s common. If this idea catches on, a lot more children will die, and I don’t want to see that.

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By: ME's mom https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2007/05/21/i-am-beyond-outraged-about-this-prednisone-and-autism/#comment-17711 Sun, 30 Mar 2008 03:20:43 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=388#comment-17711 Prednisone actually has a very good place in Pediatric medicine, but it’s true not to be taken lightly. My dd has eosinophilic disorder, look it up, add in a dose of autism and severe food allergies and she’s got lots more to worry about then bone issues! Many kids, even toddlers, are scripted prednisone to help control the E.D. issues and help put some weight on their bones. Add in that many parents see a reduction in developmental issues when their kids are put on anti-inflammatories (FYI-that’s what prednisone is and why people think it may be beneficial in counteracting the developmental damages caused by ASD). Many parents that I know that make it out the other end with their children from E.D. issues actually end up having a normal life for once. There are more severe cases that will battle with the E.D. their whole lives and it’s sad. I was told my dd would “outgrow” the E.D. between 6mo.-1 y/o on her 2nd b-day I asked what happened and they said within the year she’ll get better. She will be three and just got her g-tubed placed and is in 6 therapies a week! She has the most limited diet one could ever imagine and never gets to even taste typical childhood treats. She begs for foods that she once loved, but we had to remove b/c of a reaction. I’ve been writing everything in a journal since her birth and it has been noted that her delays increased and the autistic traits came about when the doctors wanted her to trial foods they had said she was allergic to. It took about 3 mo. for all her speech to be gone and none of them even cared. I finally pulled all the foods and she began to talk again. The stemming subsided, PICA went away, and she stopped walking into walls! She’s not 100% and I fear for her future each day. However, our next step if an elemental diet doesn’t put weight on her and get her to stop bleeding rectally is prednisone and I will welcome it. We’ve tried other anti-inflammatories without any success, so it’s our last ditch effort to save her quality of life.

Knowing what I now know about Eos conditions, which again is an inflammatory response of the body, it sort of makes sense to attempt anti-inflammatories with ASD kiddos. In addition, there has been much research and new beliefs that Eos may be a common issue amongst ASD kids that goes undiagnosed b/c of ill-educated doctors and a lack of screening. You know your common “colic” dx or “GERD” can actually be an Eos condition. More severe forms take on mucous and bloody stools or projectile vomiting and typically a red ring around the anus. Many doctors just dx cows or soya milk protein intolerance, which could be the case. However, nobody truly knows why the Eos are attacking the body and some kiddos get the response with any protein based food. My dd gets it when she eats carbs and her body cannot digest them. As such, all food passes straight through her and she is failing to digest the necessary nutrients. Couple that with the Eos attacking the carbs that for some reason it feels is a parasite and you have one heck of a problem. The only reason I know what I do and my dd has received the basic treatment to date, is b/c when she was 3 wks old I told 3 doctors to shove their colic theory when she had a bloody stool after 3 straight weeks of screaming! I found her a Ped. GI and he immediately biopsied her colon and found the Eos. It’s been a rollercoaster ever since. What happens to the kids that never get a dx though? Could it be ASD?

I hope I will see answers in my lifetime, but what I care about now is how to better my dd’s life and future. I would stop at NOTHING to keep my child out of pain and trust me when I say to see her attached to tubing all night and being alienated from social events b/c food is EVERYWHERE, hurts more then one could imagine!

Just my opinion, but I needed you all to know that there is a real use for these drugs with certain kids and if it works then I doubt we’d be hearing any critisism from parents.

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By: Kassiane https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2007/05/21/i-am-beyond-outraged-about-this-prednisone-and-autism/#comment-17710 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 07:13:19 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=388#comment-17710 “Shocked” said this:
” It is not dosed in the same way as it is for other uses. It is very, very small. ”

While the Immunosuppressing Autistics Kids Is Great! Site gave these as protocolsl:

“Daily protocol: Typically 2-3 mg / kg in liquid or pill form, each morning or twice a day. This is continued for about two months, and may be followed by a two-month period of low-dose (every-other-day). The child is then weaned off the prednisone in ever-decreasing quantities for about two months.

Pulse protocol: Typically 10 mg/kg per week in pill or suppository given over over 24 hours, every 4 or 5 days; or a dose of 50-75 mg Friday and Saturday– max. 100 mg Friday and 100 mg Saturday. This is continued over a period of several months. The child is then weaned off the prednisone in ever-decreasing quantities for several months.”

Note for comparison that I’m about 47kg. I take 5mg TOTAL. The day I had OPEN SURGERY for TWO HOURS I had 120mg TOTAL, because I don’t make cortisol. That comes out to, under stress, 2.55mg/kg *stress dose*.

That’s a small dose. Discussing further what is and is not is a moot point, because giving lupus-sized doses for autism is completely irresponsible. And I have been autistic (and alive, for that matter) long enough to know that plenty of people are just that.

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