Comments on: You’d think I’d know, by now. https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/youd-think-id-know-by-now/ Fri, 27 Feb 2009 13:38:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Melody https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/youd-think-id-know-by-now/#comment-16454 Fri, 27 Feb 2009 13:38:15 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=332#comment-16454 Yeah, me too. Not the elbows though (maybe the knees – hard to tell visually, not formally assessed). But everything else I do. I likely have some sort of connective tissue dysplasia, what with the low vision and the scoliosis and hypermobility and some overlapping teeth etc. Though I don’t think I have Marfan Syndrome due to short fingers (even though they are flexible enough to span an octave) and my arms seem to not be too long (though my pinky finger and thumb just barely overlap over my wrist, same with the index finger and thumb).

Lately I have even had a ton of pain from my low back, though only sitting or standing, gets better lying down. Tingly in my legs, too. But MRI shows no pinched nerves or disc herniation, just “some abnormalities” that the doctor doesn’t think are likely causing my problems, but they’re going to talk to me about it in person anyway…I am nervous. I really hope they figure out what it is and what can be done about it; back pain is notoriously difficult to resolve short of surgery or long-term use of painkillers, and just two and a half weeks of a moderate dose of naproxen wrecked my gastrointestinal system (though I’m sure that a previous course of high dose ibuprofen in the fall didn’t help matters and laid the major groundwork for that damage)!

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By: laurentius-rex https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/youd-think-id-know-by-now/#comment-16453 Fri, 30 Mar 2007 16:22:08 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=332#comment-16453 Surprise surprise, Laurentius is hypermobile too, he can do that and other wierd stuff, however I think he pays the price in trapped nerves, if it is trapped nerves and not something more sinister.

All I can say is that I used to think hypermobility was a good thing with no negative payoffs, but now I am older I am not so sure that it does not lead to decreased mobility and problems as one gets older.

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By: ballastexistenz https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/youd-think-id-know-by-now/#comment-16452 Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:33:08 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=332#comment-16452 Well– shouldn’t or not, we were there, and we did have it, so why not acknowledge that instead of cross-checking it against some big list of preconceived “shoulds” like it’s somehow morally wrong for it to be happening.

Yeah. That’s exactly what confuses me. “That shouldn’t happen” isn’t useful when something is happening. I actually have heard the same sort of thing from tech support people at times.

My dad always said I’d make a good technician (he was an electronics technician/engineer before he retired), and I suspect that’s part of it: If something is happening, it’s happening.

Not that it’s just medical things that this happens with– some days we feel like we’re just this big walking compendium of things that are found “too unexpected” or “too weird” for a lot of people, and all our interactions have to consist of us deciding which bits need to be mentioned, which bits theoretically could be mentioned, and which bits shouldn’t be mentioned at all, with any given person. (And just hope they don’t ever happen to pick up on any of the “shouldn’t mention it at all” things.)

I also juggle something very similar. And of course deal with the fallout when I don’t mention something someone assumes I should’ve mentioned. (Not sure it occurs to most people that I want to just live my daily life without explaining the backstory to everyone and their dog, and that if they imagine different backstory that’s not really my problem.)

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By: bullet https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/youd-think-id-know-by-now/#comment-16451 Fri, 16 Mar 2007 05:11:48 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=332#comment-16451 I think the best thing that could happen for some doctors is for them to realise they don’t know everything and to pay attention when they are told by their patients what is troubling said patients.

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By: Yarrow^Amorpha https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/youd-think-id-know-by-now/#comment-16450 Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:19:16 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=332#comment-16450 I used to fit myself into categories — out of fear — by saying things that I thought were expected of me. Now I don’t do that, but I just fail to say things that I think might be too unexpected for them to handle.

Yeah, this is starting to sound familiar– we have a lot of things we don’t mention to doctors because they just aren’t relevant, and past experience suggests that bringing them up will result in the doctors trying to make it relevant even when it isn’t– overquestioning, etc, sometimes in ways that go beyond the unnecessary into the overly personal. (“That happens to you? Really? What does it feel like? What do you do about it when that happens?”)

And when people start in with the crap about “that shouldn’t be happening,” that tends to just make us afraid to ever mention it to anyone at all in the future. It’s like… I dunno, like you just turned into a divide by 0 error in the universe, or some H.P. Lovecraft monster or something, and instead of trying to help you with something if it’s wrong, they just stare and comment on how it shouldn’t be. When we talked about having lower back and hip pain, a few years ago (we don’t have this as badly any more, but it was constant a few years back), people would say things like “A person your age shouldn’t have that.” Well– shouldn’t or not, we were there, and we did have it, so why not acknowledge that instead of cross-checking it against some big list of preconceived “shoulds” like it’s somehow morally wrong for it to be happening.

Not that it’s just medical things that this happens with– some days we feel like we’re just this big walking compendium of things that are found “too unexpected” or “too weird” for a lot of people, and all our interactions have to consist of us deciding which bits need to be mentioned, which bits theoretically could be mentioned, and which bits shouldn’t be mentioned at all, with any given person. (And just hope they don’t ever happen to pick up on any of the “shouldn’t mention it at all” things.)

I was not considered flexible in school because their lone test of flexibility depends on arm length as much as anything

Yeah, we always got chewed out by the phys ed teachers at school for being “not flexible enough” because we couldn’t do toe-touches or most of their stretching exercises. But then on the flipside, out of class, we’d get other students telling us how it was “so gross” how far we could bend our thumbs and knees backwards. (Our knees tend to bend backwards and lock when we’re standing. A lot of the time, unless we’re supported by something, we can’t actually stand up for more than a few minutes without our legs giving way and/or getting dizzy and lightheaded from something to do with blood flow from the locked knees, I guess.)

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By: cheryl https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/youd-think-id-know-by-now/#comment-16449 Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:08:26 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=332#comment-16449 For years I have hesitated mentioning things to doctors because they’d look at me like I was crazy. I have dislocated bones in my foot, popped my shoulder or jaw having nightmares and my hips during exercise and the doctors would just shake their heads. I had never heard of variations of hypermobility until recently. I cannot bend my joints out ofline, but my ligaments can suddenly just stretch whgen I’m moving and voila something is where it shouldn’t be. The ortho dude calls it “stupid ligaments” and that is detailed enough for me.

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By: Ook https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/youd-think-id-know-by-now/#comment-16448 Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:27:25 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=332#comment-16448 Another one here whose doctors all go “oh, wow, that’s great flexibility”. Actually, the best was when I was still going to a teaching hospital. I’d go in for my annual orthopedic visit, and the students would come in and do the flexion checks, and all ooh and ah over how wonderful it was. Then my doc (great guy) would come in and berate them for not realizing that the flexibility was a symptom, and the cause of most of my problems … hehe.

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By: ballastexistenz https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/youd-think-id-know-by-now/#comment-16447 Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:45:13 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=332#comment-16447 Yeah my occupational therapist had said how great it was that I could bend a certain way, as I remember. And… yeah not a good thing.

I was not considered flexible in school because their lone test of flexibility depends on arm length as much as anything. My arms are proportionally short (my armspan is 4 or 5 inches shorter than my height) so that wasn’t a good measure of flexibility.

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By: andreashettle https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/youd-think-id-know-by-now/#comment-16446 Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:44:42 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=332#comment-16446 I have kinda the opposite problem — ever since I injured my right foot some years ago, my right ankle has just never regained its full range of motion. I can walk on it, even briskly, but can no longer run or jump because it won’t stretch far enough to allow for that. And if I’m having a “bad foot day” (when it is stiffer than usual) then I may also have trouble navigating down steps, again because it won’t stretch far enough.

Wanna lend me a trace of joint flexibility for my right foot? ;-)

Or, oh, darn, doesn’t it work like that? ;-)

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By: Rosemary https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2007/03/14/youd-think-id-know-by-now/#comment-16445 Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:28:22 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=332#comment-16445 My daughter who is 28 is hyperflexible. She has pain in her back, shoulder and joints. The doctor has made her stop Yoga classes, because “she is too flexible and does damage to her back”. It is funny beacuse she had gone to various physio-people over the years about the pain, and they all thought it was so wonderful that she could bend beyond where most people can. Now we know it may not be such a good thing.

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