Comments on: My post about 9/11, since others are blogging about this. https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/09/11/my-post-about-911-since-others-are-blogging-about-this/ Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:08:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: ballastexistenz https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/09/11/my-post-about-911-since-others-are-blogging-about-this/#comment-13314 Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:08:23 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=194#comment-13314 I’ve come to the conclusion it’s a benefit of ptsd (I want a succinct, non-medical way to allude to that): one doesn’t believe in safety as a fundamental, doesn’t have the illusion horribly shattered just because one gets around to noticing that horrible things do happen, and doesn’t see the point in running around in circles, in an effort to make the illusion ‘real’ again.

Yeah… that’s one problem I have with PTSD being a medical/pathological entity like that. If everyone’s running around trying to delude themselves that they’re (physically) safe when they’re not, why is lacking that urge pathological?

The world is not a particularly (physically) safe place. Panicking over this fact is not all that worthwhile or useful. Neither is all the BS that goes on in the name of trying to get the pretence of safety again.

One example of that pretence: Someone I’m close to told me that for years he refused to believe what happened to me in institutions, because, basically, it would shatter his view of the world as a fundamentally safe place where “things like that don’t happen”.

When that pretence happens over thousands or millions of people rather than just individually, it becomes a real problem. It’s the reason that many citizens of given countries rarely believe that their fine upstanding officials and such condone or engage in torture — but everyone else’s country does. It’s always something that happens somewhere else. And all kinds of other little things people do to pretend they’re safe, end up having wide ramifications in just plain ignoring everything that goes wrong. Their pretend safety prevents some kinds of safety.

It’s odd.

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By: lordalfredhenry https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/09/11/my-post-about-911-since-others-are-blogging-about-this/#comment-13313 Thu, 14 Sep 2006 04:28:00 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=194#comment-13313 Some of the added drama seems to interfere with whatever ability people are expecting of me in terms of sympathy. I do have it though but it’s obscured. The symbols and implications that are thrown out there seem to also distract me and make me focus more on “solution” rather than dwell. Sure, it will be a memorial for many. I don’t really get the comparisons people use with the IRA or Katrina. Each instance is really isolated to me and rather different in terms of context and implication.

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By: Baba Yaga https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/09/11/my-post-about-911-since-others-are-blogging-about-this/#comment-13312 Wed, 13 Sep 2006 18:59:46 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=194#comment-13312 I do remember noticing that everyone was talking about this as if it was a major revelation that someone was going to attack America. People told me they had lost their sense of safety. I ended up alienated from pretty much everyone in the aftermath of all this, because I had never felt that America was safe, from within or from without.

Admitting that I’m not /in/ the U.S. (but we get the same talk anyway – as if the IRA/ETA/terrorist group of choice had never been); *exactly*. I’ve come to the conclusion it’s a benefit of ptsd (I want a succinct, non-medical way to allude to that): one doesn’t believe in safety as a fundamental, doesn’t have the illusion horribly shattered just because one gets around to noticing that horrible things do happen, and doesn’t see the point in running around in circles, in an effort to make the illusion ‘real’ again.

I have other memories of that September 11th, and the days after, but they belong to people who matter to me, not to an Event Unlike Any Other.

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By: elmindreda https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/09/11/my-post-about-911-since-others-are-blogging-about-this/#comment-13311 Wed, 13 Sep 2006 17:39:03 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=194#comment-13311 I was at work at DICE when the first plane hit, and we watched the news on the Xbox developers’ TV sets. The thing I remember most clearly is people being angry with me for talking about all the innocent people who would die as a consequence of the crimes perpetrated that day, as it was supposedly disrespectful of the innocent people who had just died.

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By: natalia https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/09/11/my-post-about-911-since-others-are-blogging-about-this/#comment-13310 Tue, 12 Sep 2006 13:25:04 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=194#comment-13310 I put the english version. For what it’s worth.

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By: natalia https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/09/11/my-post-about-911-since-others-are-blogging-about-this/#comment-13309 Tue, 12 Sep 2006 12:04:34 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=194#comment-13309 “The most amazing thing about 9/11 to me was the fact that it hadn’t happened sooner.”
This is what you can understand, too, if you have friends from regions where terror(ism) is sort of commonplace.
I blogged about it (see link in name) but I think the poem says more, and I haven’t found my second (english) version of it yet.

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By: laurentius-rex https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/09/11/my-post-about-911-since-others-are-blogging-about-this/#comment-13308 Tue, 12 Sep 2006 07:30:25 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=194#comment-13308 Never mind what reserchers say My Visual memories are VERY good, and it is the vision on the TV I remember most that gave the strongest impression. You might remember buildings are an “obsession” of mine.

Anyway my friend stayed on the phone as we watched together, and she shouted at me for caring more about the buildings than the people in them, indeed it was not until I saw people jumping out of the windows that the full horror in human terms struck, then it became apparant I was watching a particularly nasty snuff movie. I still think about those doomed people on the top floors. That is as I say what precipitated my video “Abbadon” which was basically scenes of people in London (where I was shortly after) goingabout there dayly business overlaid with scenes of destruction from art and from 9/11 set to the music of “Riders on the Storm”. The theme being that we all go about our daily business not knowing what may befall that make it our last day. Amongst the things I filmed was a number 30 bus that day.

What bothered me too, was that I had in the year before 9/11 included in my digital art work and videos scenes of towers in Coventry exploding or collapsing.

Anyway to watch the towers collapse was bizarre because I said at the time that when the South Tower fell it looked like there was a demolition charge on each floor because it fell with the same certainty that I have seen on demolition jobs. The North Tower collapsed in a slightly different way with the whole top section in tact but inclined., naturally the engineer in me wanted to know whys and wherefores, what angles the planes struck, what structural damage was caused in the first instance, how the structure of the WTC differed from the Sears Tower that sort of stuff.

Was I scared after that, I went down to London very shortly after and viewed my favourite Euston Tower in a different light.

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By: David N. Andrews BA-status, PgCertSpEd (pending; shit, this'll be so much easier when it's just MEd!!!) https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/09/11/my-post-about-911-since-others-are-blogging-about-this/#comment-13307 Tue, 12 Sep 2006 01:47:48 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=194#comment-13307 I was in a pub in Birmingham, having just started my postgraduate training in applied educational psychology at the time. I heard someone talking about a plane being flown into the Pentagon and I actually thought that the guy talking was clearly joking: how the hell would it happen? Then I got back to the Halls and saw a news report on the telly there – full visual presentation, and I found that the guy was actually not joking after all.

I stood there, watching the news programme (everything was news that day), and was absolutely horrified at what I saw.

I was also scared at the time: I was far away from my wife and child (I was married then), and was not entirely certain of being able to get back to them if this incident should start a third world war.

I’m still trying to process some of the thoughts and feelings I had at that time. Mostly, these days, it manifests as an almost total lack of faith in politicians to do that which is enshrined in the definition of the word ‘politics’. It means ‘the resolution of conflict’.

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By: Kristina Chew https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/09/11/my-post-about-911-since-others-are-blogging-about-this/#comment-13306 Mon, 11 Sep 2006 22:10:36 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=194#comment-13306 It’s inevitable for me to blog about 9/11…….because there is something missing across from where I work—-not that plenty about it has not already been said.

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By: Frustrated https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/09/11/my-post-about-911-since-others-are-blogging-about-this/#comment-13305 Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:58:38 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=194#comment-13305 The most amazing thing about 9/11 to me was the fact that it hadn’t happened sooner. My father was a member of the Intelligence community for many years and had warned many higher-ups of suspicious activities-information that was summarily dismissed. People really ought to be in wonder that we don’t have these kinds of attacks on a daily basis given the lack of coordination between agencies and the pathetic ego stroking that goes on which virtually ensures that info from lower level officers is not given the weight it deserves. Oh yeah, I was also 7 months pregnant with my first child at the time.

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