Comments on: Forced drugging and autistic people. https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/07/26/forced-drugging-and-autistic-people/ Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:01:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Self-determination is a fucking joke and widgetry harms real people | A world that loved monsters https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/07/26/forced-drugging-and-autistic-people/#comment-23088 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:01:52 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=171#comment-23088 […] A comment on Amanda Baggs’ blog (italicized is quoting Amanda’s post, bolding is mine for emphasis): MindFreedom International (which is, to dispel any myths, not a part of $cientology in any way) is an organization built to counter psychiatry. It has its problems. Mainly that psychotherapy is not targeted as a negative thing, it’s primarily biological psychiatry that’s targeted. And in targeting biological psychiatry, a lot of people have gotten wrapped up in the dogma that there is no such thing as any neurological internal difference that might cause people to act differently, and some people there honestly believe the Refrigerator Mother theory of autism. […]

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By: [post deleted] | A world that loved monsters https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/07/26/forced-drugging-and-autistic-people/#comment-23085 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 06:25:48 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=171#comment-23085 […] A comment on Amanda Baggs’ blog (italicized is quoting Amanda’s post, bolding is mine for emphasis): MindFreedom International (which is, to dispel any myths, not a part of $cientology in any way) is an organization built to counter psychiatry. It has its problems. Mainly that psychotherapy is not targeted as a negative thing, it’s primarily biological psychiatry that’s targeted. And in targeting biological psychiatry, a lot of people have gotten wrapped up in the dogma that there is no such thing as any neurological internal difference that might cause people to act differently, and some people there honestly believe the Refrigerator Mother theory of autism. […]

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By: Linkspam! | A world that loved monsters https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/07/26/forced-drugging-and-autistic-people/#comment-23074 Tue, 09 Aug 2011 14:56:43 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=171#comment-23074 […] – Forced drugging and autistic people. (also goes into a parenthetical about problems with MindFreedom) […]

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By: On drugs and depression « reSISTERance https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/07/26/forced-drugging-and-autistic-people/#comment-12614 Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:42:23 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=171#comment-12614 […] to the generally accepted (and pushed) standard of normality – and that is a helluva temptation). Drugs can be forced on people, they have been in the past alongside various other dodgy treatments, they are still forced on […]

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By: Initially NO https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/07/26/forced-drugging-and-autistic-people/#comment-12613 Tue, 02 Oct 2007 13:00:30 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=171#comment-12613 I was in a class of 25 adults. I read out a story where a Persian cat that rarely gets outside is munching on grass with quite an appetite. I was surprised to have nearly the whole class tell me that cats don’t eat grass. And, unfortunately, a few of them owned cats. Didn’t they know they were making their cats sick by never allowing them to eat fresh greens?
People are ignorant of many things. But it is when they are so adamant that they know and I don’t, I just skip to the parallel and think: psychiatrist. And how, these psychiatrists can think they know how to fix people. Well, I guess they do, in the same way a crook might fix a game of cards. I see their websites advertising products and making out they’ve done legitimate studies. Studies which entail forcefully injecting people. It’s sick. Psychiatrists are sick. Their should be a world wide moratorium on psychiatry. Then some of the worst of them should be locked up – in jail. They’re profiting by experimenting on us!

And then there’s dear Julia (above), “serious mad people are those who laugh and talk alone…” I Wonder if the woman ever had a creative thought.
Look, someone who walks naked on the street is a nudist. Someone who laughs alone is a comedian. And someone who talks alone is most likely an actor. If, these “seriously mad” aren’t any of these things, maybe they wanted to be, but people have locked them away, threatened and drugged for trying to advance their passions. Perhaps it was the psychiatric “care” that made them “seriously mad”.
Hi, I don’t agree with any of the labels psychiatrists have given me. I don’t appreciate having my autonomy over my body being taken away by medical “authorities”. I don’t want that to happen to friends. It makes me sick thinking about babies being drugged now. How are these kids ever going to get over the habit? How are any of these kids going to learn to sing if they aren’t allowed to scream and shout? I think those diagnosed with “mental illness” are part of a sly world-wide drug testing campaign. People who normally volunteer to test drugs get paid at least $2000 for a week or so. The diagnosed? Nix.

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By: Nathan Young https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/07/26/forced-drugging-and-autistic-people/#comment-12612 Sun, 05 Aug 2007 01:22:43 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=171#comment-12612 I just wanted to say I’m about to do hours in radio ads and my book is about to be published. It will be availible in 25,000 locations.

My book counters specifically in my chapter called Chapter Fifteen – Of Pity, Pride and Ego what Julie said. Yet in a broad sense.. I was threatened with assualt after complaining of the neglect of a minor which resulted in him being removed in a stretcher. I just needed a place to stay during a heat wave when my apartment broke.

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By: ballastexistenz https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/07/26/forced-drugging-and-autistic-people/#comment-12611 Sat, 23 Jun 2007 17:22:09 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=171#comment-12611 All I can say to that is that Julia seems to be ranting at an invisible ghost who did not actually participate in this discussion. Julia: You might not want to read so many motivations that aren’t there into what people are saying, it would make conversation easier.

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By: julia https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/07/26/forced-drugging-and-autistic-people/#comment-12610 Sat, 23 Jun 2007 16:29:47 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=171#comment-12610 I think part of the problem is the patient’s believe about himself.Some people believe their “problems” can never be solved because theirs is unique unlike anyone else in this world-so a psychiatric label and drugs would serve his belief. Some believe it is normal to have problems and he can be healed by various ways such as by being patient, humble, eating healthy food and exercising well. Hence, the reason why some patients “healed” using these drugs, some heal without needing any drugs and yet some never heal no matter what drug or garbage they take is because of what they believe about themselves.

Some people just love the attention they get from people, even if it is unhealthy attention (You know, my situation is unique and worse than yours (yours is not tht significant)because “EXPERT” says I am autistic/bi-polar/sychzo, etc.)

Our mistakes as humans is we fail to remember or believe that God is the one who has power to heal your painful experiences-not drugs. By believing that only drugs/hotdog/burgers(whatever you name it) can “cure” your “condition”-you are actually saying you have no responsibility to actively try your best to deal with the situation that bugs you, in a healthy way because, heck-you are DIFFERENT. You are incapable. I am sad? Oh I cant help it, I’m bipolar. I dont talk to people(duh we all are shy at some point in our lives)-oh what to do? I cant help it I’m autistic! Poor me! So on and so forth.

I think if “autistic” or whatever labeled people want to really stop being forced drugged-the first change need to really come from you. Stop complaining about your situation and thinking you are the only person on this planet earth who is suffering. Stop the pity me dramas. Yes you can talk and discuss about it maturely but not getting lost into it thinking youre the only one suffering. Go out and see the world how other people are suffering-raped, abused, tortured, etc and wake up. When you act so wimpy, you give chance to people to drug/order you. Being happy is a choice. When you choose not to be happy, when you choose and decide your situation is unique and thus incapable of being dealt with by you-others will decide for you.

I’m not against seeking help, just I feel one should be less self-conscious and start counting his blessings. Yes you have a problem, so does everybody else. Do something about it, get some advice, and move on. Dont get all caught up into it.

The people before us live in a much worse conditions yet they dont need drugs. (our ancestors) People in third world countries live in damning conditions yet they can cope without drugs.

if there are “autistics” now, there were then. But my reservation against autistism labels is that most often the labels are not necessary. The real “autistic” or “NOT NORMAL” people are basically the seriously MAD people-those who laugh and talk alone, walking naked on the streets etc. Otherwise, you are still “NORMAL”. You might not be perfect, (nobody is)-but you are still normal. Just because you are more easily angry than others, or more shy than others, or more quiet or more talkative or more hyper etc than others, doesnt mean you are NOT NORMAL. Doesnt mean you have to be labelled. Doesnt mean you are a “special case”.

YOU ARE WHAT YOU BELIEVE and for things to change, you HAVE to change FIRST.

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By: Nathan Young https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/07/26/forced-drugging-and-autistic-people/#comment-12609 Tue, 12 Sep 2006 03:20:29 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=171#comment-12609 I wrote an online book about my experience with a U.S government psychiatric facility force drugging me and threatening me. I have H.F.A and my story cannot fit on this site. It can be read at NathanYoung.net.

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By: Athena Ivan https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/07/26/forced-drugging-and-autistic-people/#comment-12608 Tue, 01 Aug 2006 08:56:39 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=171#comment-12608 hey Amanda, I tried to get to the mindfreedom thing. But it’s something different, Intelliprop or something, and when I clicked on mindfreedom, I saw something for Ipod. Is it that way on purpose? I just need a yes or no then I’ll figure the rest out. Thanks. I’m talking about Mindfreedom International.

AI

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