Comments on: “Never Daydream”? Umm… https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/05/13/never-daydream-umm/ Tue, 16 May 2006 14:52:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Robert P https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/05/13/never-daydream-umm/#comment-11412 Tue, 16 May 2006 14:52:43 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=103#comment-11412 I’m late to your party ballastexistenz, but what they did was measure brain activity before and after a task. The paper isn’t actually online yet, so it is hard to break it down, but that hasn’t stopped me from trying : ).

In short, it could be either or, and based on all of our personal experience it is ALWAYS DAYDREAMING.

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By: Laurentius Rex https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/05/13/never-daydream-umm/#comment-11411 Mon, 15 May 2006 17:06:56 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=103#comment-11411 Well I wonder as I wander whether Daydreams ever Autize ?

Do androids dream of electric sheep, how would I know, too busy counting Unicorns :)

Laurentius

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By: Autism Vox » Daydream Believer https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/05/13/never-daydream-umm/#comment-11410 Mon, 15 May 2006 14:10:01 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=103#comment-11410 […] You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site. Related Posts: Remembering “Refrigerator Mothers” onMother’s Day… […]

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By: Andrew https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/05/13/never-daydream-umm/#comment-11409 Sun, 14 May 2006 21:37:52 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=103#comment-11409 Funny how the BBC and New Scientist draw different conclusions from the PNAS paper (which sadly I can’t access).

BBC:
“Autistic brains ‘never daydream’

People with autism do not daydream, a study has found.”

New Scientist:
“Daydreams are different in autistic minds

PEOPLE with autism seem not to daydream in the way that other people do.”

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By: Joel https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/05/13/never-daydream-umm/#comment-11408 Sun, 14 May 2006 21:35:45 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=103#comment-11408 that’s a poorly designed test. One could easily flip it, one of the kids I work with daydreams whenever it’s story time. Most of the NT kids don’t though. (I know he’s daydreaming because if I don’t occupy him enough to keep him sitting, he’ll go entertain himself.)

Or what about a NT expert in christian iconography, would such a person daydream while looking at a cross? Maybe they don’t daydream either!

weak design. A test like that would have to be done over a larger series of objects. Even the colour of the wall, lighting in the room, time of day, etc. would have to be controlled.

Scientists think they’re so clever sometimes.

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By: Amorpha https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/05/13/never-daydream-umm/#comment-11407 Sun, 14 May 2006 14:31:18 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=103#comment-11407 Apparently, they assumed for some reason that the cross would be perceived as a neutral or blank pattern. (Considering the number of people for whom some type of cross has religious or symbolic significance, I’m really amazed that they could consider that even for non-autistic people.)

You can’t determine that someone ‘never’ daydreams based on their reaction to a single non-neutral pattern. This seems to be the kind of junk science that the press is hungry for, however; you see a lot of similar bullshit in regards to male-female differences, conducted under similarly flawed conditions, and all I can conclude is that the media is generally hungry for any kind of study that purports to show how one group of people intrinsically differs from (read: is inferior to/incapable of doing the same things as) “normal people,” and which might justify stereotype-based treatment of them.

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By: El Juno https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/05/13/never-daydream-umm/#comment-11406 Sun, 14 May 2006 12:37:48 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=103#comment-11406 You know, I’ve seen a lot of reports that made me go ‘…you’re joking, right?’ but this is the first one that’s got me completely convinced that the people who actually work these things out don’t actually know any autistics, whatsoever.

I’m not sure my brain knows how NOT to daydream…

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By: Julie https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/05/13/never-daydream-umm/#comment-11405 Sun, 14 May 2006 10:29:49 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=103#comment-11405 That’s a load of crap. I don’t need to analyze it to know it’s wrong. I’m an Aspie and I daydream, so there. No one knows my head better than I do! *sticks out tongue*

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By: Rosabw https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/05/13/never-daydream-umm/#comment-11404 Sun, 14 May 2006 08:20:00 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=103#comment-11404 He didn’t want me to tell the particulars, and he gave me a lot !

He has always told me he has a secret world, and I had NO idea what he meant. Now, he has given me the particulars of it, and I understand that he has a vivid imagination! The things he shared are sacred to me…the fact that he daydreams is not.

I felt honored by his trust. I hope I only revealed what was necessary to show his imagination.

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By: Jay Young https://ballastexistenz.wordpress.com/2006/05/13/never-daydream-umm/#comment-11403 Sun, 14 May 2006 05:26:57 +0000 http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/?p=103#comment-11403 *falls over laughing*

In the 1950s through the 1980s, daydreaming was supposed to be a “danger sign” indicating incipient autism. Ah, those thrilling days of yesteryear when autism was supposed to mean a kid was “lost in a fantasy”. All that “Silent Snow, Secret Snow” bologna. I still bristle when I read references to “in his own world” about autism.

Naturally, the Ex-Perts (just like R.B. says) have to stay ahead of the curve, so now we have “extreme male brains” and “lack theory of mind” and are incapable of fantasizing. Which, taken to its logical extreme, means we are incapable of conceiving new ideas, being creative, or uh… gee, independent thought.

We have a homeworld too… have had all our lives. Only difference is that we no longer talk out loud when interacting with there. (More bologna, about “losing it when you grow up.”)

R.B., I’m curious about something though — if you promised not to tell anyone about your son’s secret world, why reveal it here?

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