Comments on: Suicide and autism ‘severity’

By: Edenism 101, Part Three: The End of Eden

Edenism 101, Part Three: The End of Eden — Thu, 21 Feb 2013 02:22:54 +0000

[…] manifests today in the extreme bullying and social censure that Aspies and the autistic face, giving them a suicide rate far above the average—and sent north into Europe to wipe out the Thals, Genghis […]

By: Edenism 101, Part Two: Cro-Magnons, Neanderthals, Melonheads and Starchildren

Edenism 101, Part Two: Cro-Magnons, Neanderthals, Melonheads and Starchildren — Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:14:08 +0000

[…] when it hurts them personally). In the large-group Sapiens environment that is modern society, many Thals suffer from crippling social dysfunction, usually diagnosed as autism or Asperger’s […]

By: Reading faces – the eyes are the windows to the soul | Koanic Soul

Reading faces – the eyes are the windows to the soul | Koanic Soul — Sat, 30 Jun 2012 18:16:39 +0000

[…] This instinctive hatred can be seen in the bullying that Aspergers and autistic children experience from the playground onwards, giving them an extremely high suicide rate (data is scarce, but very rough estimate puts it at .6%, versus .013% for the general population, or 47x higher than normal. And that is most likely a severe underestimate. […]

By: Ana54

Ana54 — Fri, 25 Mar 2011 20:07:29 +0000

Go Amanda! I hate it when they make a person’s problem (others thinking they’re nto self-aware enough) worse instead of better by thinking that they aren’t self aware so they are trying to prevent them from “accidents” rather than suicides. It dehumanizes person. It’s treats them like an object… not even an animal or any living thing… an object. Inanimate objects have accidents. People have accidents too, but also commit suicide. These people just want to be regarded as people too.

By: Eric

Eric — Sat, 22 Jan 2011 12:10:37 +0000

What I think reasons for suicide to autistics and aspergers is – it’s more on what we see our future holds. When we think we are not able to get what’s most important to us, we will think of suicide. Each individual may have different reasons. One may by money, hard to get a job, got a job that we get unrecognised, bullied, considered slow, incapable. The others may be relationships, girl/boyfriend, loneliness, feeling easily bullied, cheated, ridiculed, laughed at.

By: Phil Schwarz

Phil Schwarz — Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:55:32 +0000

Mona, sorry, but I think you are quite wrong about “historically-embedded fear of success”, about the goodness or badness of anger, and, for that matter, about what really constitutes anger. You are being cavalierly dismissive of people you term “our angrier autistics”, who have laid the very foundations that Michael John (Carley) stands upon to do what he does — and which he quite freely acknowledges. I think you owe Ballastexistenz, and every autistic you think is “angry”, an apology.

— Phil Schwarz

By: Ballastexistenz » Blog Archive » The “right” to freedom from disagreement.

Wed, 26 Apr 2006 08:23:26 +0000

[…] While I was approving comments today (and marking half the comments I got as spam, ugh) I came across a comment on one of my older entries, Suicide and Autism Severity. The commenter said that the person I was disagreeing with in that entry has done a lot for our community, and that the amount of people who see that person as an “easy target” therefore demonstrates an ingrained fear of success and were the “angrier” autistics. […]

By: ballastexistenz

ballastexistenz — Wed, 26 Apr 2006 07:40:56 +0000

He was talking about probability, but I think he was wrong about probability. I don’t think people regarded as low-functioning are any less likely to be able to conceptualize suicide than people regarded as high-functioning. In part because I’m aware of the fact that those two labels depend on a small number of characteristics, none of which are awareness.

Characterizing people who disagree with a particular person (people who may, in fact, disagree in totally different ways from each other, and therefore cannot be easily lumped together) as “angrier” or “afraid of success” is not accurate and only serves to cloud the issues we bring up. Nobody, in my mind, has the right to freedom from disagreement, no matter how much they give to a community.

By: Mona

Mona — Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:04:14 +0000

I read that piece also, and I don’t think that’s what Carley meant at all. Carley was discussing probability, not exstinguishing possibility, when he talked about suicide along the spectrum (also, this was one paragraph out of the article). And I find it so indicative of our historically-embedded fear of success that Carley is such an easy target for our angrier autistics. This man is doing an awful lot for our community.

By: ballastexistenz

ballastexistenz — Wed, 29 Mar 2006 15:11:00 +0000

I know people who were suicidal from ages like 2 and 4, and knew what death meant. Not because they had a “mental illness” but because they perceived that they were not valued.